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With or Without God: Why the way we live is more important than what we believe by Gretta Vosper
Vosper is an ordained minister of the United Church, Canada's largest Protestant Christian denomination. She holds a master of divinity degree from Queen's University and was ordained in 1992. She founded and chairs the Toronto-based Canadian Centre for Progressive Christianity.
Christianity without Christ ~ No creeds, no miracles, no Resurrection: Minister preaches faith without the symbolism
Charles Lewis, National Post
Saturday, May 03, 2008 Vosper's thesis is that, e.g., the bible, cross, and the title 'reverend' are "symbols that hold the church back from breaking into the future -- to a time "when the label Christian won't even exist" and the Church will be freed of the burdens of the past."
She hopes that, "The central story of Christianity will fade away," she explained. "The story about Jesus as the symbol of everything that Christianity is will fade away."
"Ms. Vosper does not believe in the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, the miracles and the sacrament of baptism. Nor does she believe in the creeds, the presence of Christ in communion or that Jesus was the Son of God.
"In With or Without God, her book that was formally launched this week [March 22, 2008], she writes that Jesus was a "Middle Eastern peasant with a few charismatic gifts and a great posthumous marketing team." She writes, "It is time to live in the current paradigm, being progressive enough to let go of the beliefs and traditions to which we've had to tip our hats and curtsy in the past but which can no longer prevail in our contemporary world."
Vosper's "focus of her 'spiritual' life is love. And since love is the common bond between all people, it is really the only thing worth believing in.
"Here in the context of seeking out harmony with all things, the purest understanding of those values that enhance and sanctify life becomes the foremost spiritual practice," she writes.
With or Without God: Why the way we live is more important than what we believe by Gretta VosperVosper is an ordained minister of the United Church, Canada's largest Protestant Christian denomination. She holds a master of divinity degree from Queen's University and was ordained in 1992. She founded and chairs the Toronto-based Canadian Centre for Progressive Christianity.
Christianity without Christ ~ No creeds, no miracles, no Resurrection: Minister preaches faith without the symbolism
Charles Lewis, National Post
Saturday, May 03, 2008 Vosper's thesis is that, e.g., the bible, cross, and the title 'reverend' are "symbols that hold the church back from breaking into the future -- to a time "when the label Christian won't even exist" and the Church will be freed of the burdens of the past."
She hopes that, "The central story of Christianity will fade away," she explained. "The story about Jesus as the symbol of everything that Christianity is will fade away."
"Ms. Vosper does not believe in the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, the miracles and the sacrament of baptism. Nor does she believe in the creeds, the presence of Christ in communion or that Jesus was the Son of God.
"In With or Without God, her book that was formally launched this week [March 22, 2008], she writes that Jesus was a "Middle Eastern peasant with a few charismatic gifts and a great posthumous marketing team." She writes, "It is time to live in the current paradigm, being progressive enough to let go of the beliefs and traditions to which we've had to tip our hats and curtsy in the past but which can no longer prevail in our contemporary world."
Vosper's "focus of her 'spiritual' life is love. And since love is the common bond between all people, it is really the only thing worth believing in.
"Here in the context of seeking out harmony with all things, the purest understanding of those values that enhance and sanctify life becomes the foremost spiritual practice," she writes.
When we have constructed dogma about the divine and created rituals with which to relate to it, we have called it "religion." Religion seems to be mandated by our peculiar human need to make sense of our world. And so we construct our institutions and traditions, for our time, and according to beliefs, as we understand them ... We, too, must take up that task and work to create a world in which each person's right to find their own way is honoured, whether it involves ancient or contemporary rituals or traditions, religious or secular means, and we challenge ourselves to be open to new understandings of the Divine as they are made known to us." It's Time ~ Gretta Vosper
Vosper's Website
Thursday, May 01, 2008
* God takes a holiday ...
God is tired, worn out. So he speaks to St. Peter, "You know, I need a vacation. Got any suggestions where I should go?"Blasphemous Jokes
St. Peter, thinking, nods his head, then says, "How about Jupiter? It's nice and warm there this time of the year."
God shakes His head before saying, "No. Too much gravity. You know how that hurts my back."
"Hmmm," St. Peter reflects. "Well, how about Mercury?"
"No way!" God mutters, "It's way too hot for me there!"
"I've got it," St. Peter says, his face lighting up. "How about going Down to Earth for your vacation?"
Chuckling, God remarks, "Are you kidding? Two thousand years ago I went there, had an affair with some nice Jewish girl, and they're STILL talking about it!"
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The "Godless" ~ Self-professed
Bush in a Fog ~ No Clue
That was said on September 14, 2001, three days after the World Trade Center horror. Reverend Bush's sermon made me feel even worse.
I absolutely believe what Ellie [Contact] believes--that there is no direct evidence, so how could you ask me to believe in God when there's absolutely no evidence that I can see?

I don't believe in Heaven and Hell," he says. "I don't know if I believe in God. All I know is that as an individual, I won't allow this life--the only thing I know to exist--to be wasted.
~ George Clooney
~ George Clooney
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